Told family and friends: They 'did not want to hear this'
A retired Chicago-area mailman who has come forward with his first-person recollection of a clean-cut young man he identified as Barack Obama who approached him and told him he was going to be president says he wasn’t worried about relating his experience, but he also wasn’t encouraged by friends and family.
Allen Hulton, who previously told WND in a videotaped interview about meeting Obama long before his political career was launched in Chicago, was interviewed by Mark Gillar on his BlogTalkRadio program just days ago.
Gillar asked him why he didn’t made a more concerted effort to tell people about how Mary Ayers, the mother of longtime Obama associate Bill Ayers and one of the residents to whom he delivered mail, boasted of helping this “foreign” student with his college.
“I have a very good answer to that,” Hulton said. “I did mention it to a family member, to friends. Because of their reaction, they were not impressed, they tried to explain it away.”
One family member, especially, “did not want to hear this,” Hulton said. “I figured that would be the reaction if I came forward.”
But he has not, however, tried to keep it a secret.
“Over these several years, I have told it to groups of people, places that I go for meetings, activities that I am involved in,” he said.
But he agreed with Gillar’s characterization that while he was telling people, not a whole lot of people were listening.
He confirmed that he still has not been approached by any of the “big boys” – the networks or major talk radio interests, about his remembrance that Mary Ayers told him of helping with “foreign” student and then Obama’s statement, in a matter-of-fact way as if the issue already was decided, that he would be president.
It was Mary Ayer’s enthusiasm over the “foreign” student that impressed the incident on Hulton’s memory.
“She was kind of excited about and very enthusiastic about this man,” he told Gillars.
The second scenario that left him more or less speechless was Obama’s statement that he was going to be president.
It was Obama, Hulton recalled, who approached him and struck up a conversation on the sidewalk outside of the Ayers’ home.
“Barack Obama said he had been helped financially at school,” he said. Then, near the end of the conversation, Obama stated he was going to be president.
“It was like, you know, if you went for a job interview [and got the job] and got excited about it, although you hadn’t gone to work yet,” Hulton said.
WND previously reported on Hulton’s 39-year career with the postal service, and he has provided a sworn affidavit to Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who is investigating whether Obama is eligible for Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. Hulton recorded about three hours of video interviews with WND.
Hulton says that in conversations with Mary Ayers while on his route he learned of the couple’s enthusiasm and support for a black foreign student. One bright, warm Chicagoland day, he recounts, he met the student who fit Mary Ayers’ description in front of the Ayers home in Glen Ellyn, Ill. That young man, Hulton is convinced, was Barack Obama.
Over a period of years in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Hulton estimates he spoke with Mary Ayers about 18 to 20 times and once to Tom Ayers, who died in 2007. Mary Ayers died in 2000.
WND has reported that when Obama was in Indonesia with his Indonesian stepfather and his mother from ages 6 to10, he was registered in school as an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim. He went by the name Barry Soetoro, adopting the surname of his Indonesian stepfather. His mother’s passport listed him with the surname Soebarkah.
But Obama refuses to allow the Hawaii Department of Health release any adoption records that may exist for him.
If Obama were adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, he may have compromised his eligibility to be president, according to Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution, which requires that a president be a “natural-born citizen,” which experts say means having both parents be U.S. citizens.